“I initially was like, ‘I don’t do a ton of these kinds of things, because I always felt [to] just let the show speak for itself in a way,’” Carl, 40, said on the Wednesday, February 5, episode of podcast about his decision to sit down with Nick Viall. “In the last year or two, with the whole break-up stuff, I spent a lot of time trying to figure out, ‘How do I navigate this?’ It’s a difficult situation. I didn’t want to make it any more challenging and I felt like it was best to stay quiet, wait until the season airs and really try to heal.”
After many years of friendship, Carl started dating Lindsay, 38, a year into his sobriety. While they got engaged during Summer House season 7, Carl was accused of blindsiding Lindsay when months before their planned wedding ceremony.
Lindsay would go on to welcome with new boyfriend Turner Kufe in December 2024. For Carl, he repeatedly stressed on “The Viall Files” that he wished Lindsay and her family the best.
“Her feelings are valid, her experiences are valid,” Carl said. “I don’t want to undermine that, but at the end of the day, I feel like the right decision was made that we should not move forward with the wedding.”
Keep scrolling for a recap of his biggest moments on Nick Viall’s podcast:
Carl Insists He ‘Didn’t Set’ Up Lindsay With Filmed Breakup Scene
After Summer House season 8 wrapped in summer 2024, with Carl telling Lindsay the wedding was canceled.
“It was a such difficult summer,” he said. “That particular conversation, I didn’t set her up with producers. They were already doing pick-up filming after we wrapped that last day and knew we weren’t in a good place and knew we’d have to talk on camera one way or another. But, how that conversation actually played out, that is literally how it played out.”
According to Carl, he “didn’t walk in wanting to end” their relationship.
“But, the falling-out of it all from that day was what made it,” the Bravo star recalled. “I didn’t process what was going to happen after we had that conversation. Within an hour of that, it was on the internet that we had broken up. I went down the street to a hotel to get some space, I stayed in the hotel that night and the next morning, I got a text from her friends saying, ‘Hey, if you want to get some stuff from the apartment, [come by].’”
Carl was ultimately joined by a producer to pick up his belongings before jetting off to the airport to visit his parents in Pittsburgh.
Carl Lost $150,000 on Wedding Deposits
When Carl ended his and Lindsay’s engagement, it was one week after the deadline to
“I wrote statements, I had planned podcast interviews that I canceled [and] I thought a lot about … sharing my side of the story,” he said. “It felt, to me, as a male with a public platform [and] trying to defend myself, it just didn’t feel right. Even though I felt I did what was right, which was if you feel it wasn’t right to move forward with the wedding.”
According to Carl, he went into that Summer House season still planning the big day.
“Like, the amount of money we invested in all of it. I missed the cancellation for our wedding to get a full refund by seven days,” Carl alleged. “I wasn’t thinking about canceling anything other than trying to get on the same page with her. Had I been about seven days sooner, I would have saved around $150,000. But, that wasn’t in my brain. I was just trying to land the plane with her.”
